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Thread: Rear sub frame swap - off for galvanzing, may turn into a project thread

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    PARTS UPDATE

    Finally had the parts picked up, the arms, bushes and fuel + brake lines. Paid the son in law 100 to go pick them up from Toyota in Oxford in his people carrier as I didn't want to risk the lines to a courier. They still didn't arrive in the best of shapes, the thin brake lines have lots of new curves over the schematic I ordered from, one has 20 curves which I recon is about 10 to many. Fortunately no crushes on the brake lines so I'm hoping they will straighten out when clipped into place. the main fuel line which is made of good gauge metal didn't fare as well with a flat crush on one bend. Its almost impossible to bend by hand so it must have had a major force applied to bend and crush. SM at Toyota Oxford sighed and promised to replace it, this time it'll need to risk a courier journey.

    SM was unable to locate a source for the RH rear frame and roll bar mounting bush (52205-14020) and the front diff mounts (41654-30010) but fortunately TCB came good with those so I did manage to cobble a full set of arms and bushing for the rear frame from Amayama, Toyota Oxford and TCB. though TCB do deserve particular credit as I pushed onto them the parts the other two couldn't supply. I'm sure there will be more parts I find I need when the original frame comes off and I'll start with TCB first.

    Tackled the main frame front bushes today with a bit of trepidation if I'm honest. Figured start off with the likely hardest first. I felt a bit guilty afterwards because they went in with commensurate ease. I greased the cups on either side of the frame that holds the bushing and used the side of a 15lb sledgehammer dropped onto the bush from about 30cm. They bounced out a few times until they seated but once seated it only took 5 or 6 gravity drops on the sledgehammer to drive them fully home. I was left feeling smug so figured I'd quit while ahead meaning I'll probably tackle the two rear diff bushes at the weekend if I find time.

    So far, so good.
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    Good work it'll be satisfying once done (that's what I keep telling myself on my mini refurb). It's funny how we can barely look under the car for years and then once we decided to have a good look/clean up it becomes a major project!

    Can I ask have you dropped the fuel tank at all in the work you've done? presume you are/will for the fuel line replacing?
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    I'm thinking of buying this for the diff bush replacement.

    https://www.powerhouseracing.com/pro...tallation-tool

    Good to know the two front bushes were quite easy. I'll have a go on mine over the weekend.
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    I also fell foul of that rear bush part number. It was superseded by 52205-14040, as you now know.
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    Mines all back together now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blythmrk View Post
    Mines all back together now!
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    That looks very nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwilkinson View Post
    I'm thinking of buying this for the diff bush replacement.

    https://www.powerhouseracing.com/pro...tallation-tool
    I'm planning on standing the frame on its end after I fitted the cross braces this afternoon to aid frame rigidity and will be trying the sledge hammer drop technique again on the rear diff bushes. The front frame bushes when mated up looked to be quite a bit too large for the cups so I'm hoping the rear diff bushes will slip into place as easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blythmrk View Post
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    If you have a few days free, do come around and show me how its done. I'm not going to change hubs or drive shafts or paint up the diff so its not going to be looking quite as black clean as yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rider View Post
    If you have a few days free, do come around and show me how its done. I'm not going to change hubs or drive shafts or paint up the diff so its not going to be looking quite as black clean as yours.
    Whilst you are at it you might as well do everything!
    Can you not have the diff bushes pressed out at a garage?

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    Tackled the rear bushes this morning. Didn't go to plan. The rears don't have the compressible split in the casing that the fronts do. I decided after having the left bush bounce out for a majorly large number of times it just wasn't going to seat. On my own today so decided it was safe to put the bushes into the freezer. Tried again 3 hours later and job done. Because the bush is on a solid cup it did take a good few drops on the 15lb side of the sledgehammer to get them home, probably around 30 as it wasn't slipping in easily. Anyone doing the rear frame bush should note the bolt holes are not central to the bush so orientation is very important as I doubt rotation is a possibility after they are fitted.

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    Just the two new mounting cushions to fit now, seeing they slide onto the shaft I'm not anticipating any issues.

    Frame bushing guide:

    Tool - 15lb sledgehammer
    Materials - Grease
    Ancillary equipment - freezer

    Ease of fitment - Much easier than anticipated.

    So far so good.

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    Good work,

    I've got all new arms, rods, nuts, bolts bushes etc. to go on. Going to have the underside totally redone as well while it's all apart but probably won't be until next summer. Will keep an eye on this thread for little bits of info and what not
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    Collected together all the torque settings today for the reassembly:

    Torque setting

    Rear frame rear cushions 43 lb/ft (58NM)
    Rear frame front cushions 129 lb/ft
    Prop to diff bolts 58 lb/ft
    Drive shaft to differential 61 lb/ft
    Differential mount bolts front 108 lb/ft
    Differential mount bolts rear 105 lb/ft
    Stabilizer bar drop link (both) 54 lb/ft
    Stabilizer bar bracket 13 lb/ft

    And for the arms:

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    Last edited by rider; 05-09-17 at 11:26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rider View Post
    Collected together all the torque settings today for the reassembly:

    Torque setting

    Rear frame rear cushions 43 lb/ft (58NM)
    Rear frame front cushions 129 lb/ft
    Prop to diff bolts 58 lb/ft
    Drive shaft to differential 61 lb/ft
    Differential mount bolts front 108 lb/ft
    Differential mount bolts rear 105 lb/ft
    Stabilizer bar drop link (both) 54 lb/ft
    Stabilizer bar bracket 13 lb/ft

    And for the arms:

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    Good job. That saves time searching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rider View Post
    Collected together all the torque settings today for the reassembly:

    Torque setting

    Rear frame rear cushions 43 lb/ft (58NM)
    Rear frame front cushions 129 lb/ft
    Prop to diff bolts 58 lb/ft
    Drive shaft to differential 61 lb/ft
    Differential mount bolts front 108 lb/ft
    Differential mount bolts rear 105 lb/ft
    Stabilizer bar drop link (both) 54 lb/ft
    Stabilizer bar bracket 13 lb/ft

    And for the arms:

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    Image looks to be a different car, not a Supra??

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    Shamed into replacing all the nuts, bolts and cams with new just placed an order today with Amayama. Its 240 worth DDP just for the fixings (quoted 280 domestic). I already had over 50 of new fixings so a complete set of rear frame and arms bolts, washers and nuts is 300. Also ordered a front set of upper and lower arms today (next years project?), that's another 1,200. Lots of places listing front upper control arms as discontinued so if anyone wanted to stockpile probably needs to order those soon.

    Another expensive Supra day, gone past 5k on parts alone.
    Last edited by rider; 13-09-17 at 20:50.

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