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    Quote Originally Posted by mwilkinson View Post
    Nice job. Are those solid bushes? Are you going to retain them?
    Where have you seen solid bushes?
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    Nice work, sure ill be doing this one day in my ownership. Subscribed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Massey View Post
    Where have you seen solid bushes?
    Front big round bushes (sorry for terrible description). I don't imagine they are genuine given they have been dipped in numerous acids and then galvanized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwilkinson View Post
    Front big round bushes (sorry for terrible description). I don't imagine they are genuine given they have been dipped in numerous acids and then galvanized.
    They are solid which to be honest I'm a bit miffed about as I wasn't made aware it was a modified frame when I purchased it and never having seen one before except the one fitted to my car I never clocked the solid front mounts. I have wondered what to do with those front mounts as all the other bushes are going to be the rubber OE variety. The thought of transmission noise makes me want to tackle the welds holding these solid bushes onto the frame with a thin cutting disc but then there is the concern I could end up with a very uneven surface for the new bush.

    Any thought on leave alone or go for it because the noise will be unbearable (sods law, one 1cm weld is inaccessible to a cutting disc)?
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    My gut feeling is that they will transmit a terrible amount of noise and vibration. OK for a track car, but terrible for a road car. I'd personally get them out.

    I doubt any damage done in removing them would render it impossible to reinstall stock bushes.
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    Ah, I was looking at the back and couldn't see them.
    Didn't think to look at the front position
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwilkinson View Post
    My gut feeling is that they will transmit a terrible amount of noise and vibration. OK for a track car, but terrible for a road car. I'd personally get them out.

    I doubt any damage done in removing them would render it impossible to reinstall stock bushes.
    Agreed. Solid welded mounts will be horrendous for road daily use. Should of cut them out before dipping really.

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    All I've read on this thread is poor quality this, miffed about that etc etc. If you had an issue with the Subframe you should have informed me before stripping it to bits (Same goes for Mark with the tank cover). Agree on yours and Marks comments the quality of the work on the shell these were from was shockingly bad and I think few people have learned lessons from it.

    Ive run solid front bushes on my track car with the Strongflex rear bushes and I can't say I noticed much difference over stock. I think all 4 bushes being the solid variety would be horrific but as long as there is some flex it should be fine.

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    Running solid bushes *AND* flexible bushes will put HUGE loads into the solid bush mounting area as they are effectively doing all the work. Same with solid engine mounts and flexible gearbox mounts. all solid or all flexible. Post a decent photo of how the solid bushes are welded in. If you can't get `em out easily I would run solid ones on the other two pick up points and leave flexible diff bushes in. It shouldn't be much harsher and noisier like that.
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    I ran my track car with that setup for 2 years and never had 1 issue. Only speaking from personal experience.

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    Links to a couple of pictures of the solid bushing. One thing I'm a little concerned about trying to cut the mounts out of the frame is that it appears as though it has a spacer ring as well as the solid mount welded to the frame. Maybe it needs a professional metal shop to tackle this job?

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/leulzynagi...32322.jpg?dl=0

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/0bezuso9yx...32225.jpg?dl=0

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    You'd probably get `em out with a small angle grinder, a thin(ish) disc and a lot of patience. The steel outer sleeves of the OE rubber bushes are a VERY tight press fit, it the top of the seating area is left a bit ropey it won't really matter other than aesthetically. Make sure you can still get the OE ones first though.... Why whoever did them didn't make them in alloy and a press fit I don't know, would have been lighter, and much easier to revert back. Have fun, I can feel the numb fingers and the back ache already Good safety goggles a shattering grinder disc has a lot of inertia, but I am sure I am "teaching granny to suck an egg" there, no offence meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Wilson View Post
    Make sure you can still get the OE ones first though....
    New ones are still available and ordered today. This frame will be a 1,500 piece of kit by the time new OE bushes included.

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    What is the mark to the left hand side of the second photo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rider View Post
    New ones are still available and ordered today. This frame will be a 1,500 piece of kit by the time new OE bushes included.
    It will be worth it
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